Carl BildtOf Sweden minister of foreign affairs Carl Bildt a debate requires over the guidance of Europe and a coordinated energy policy. The conservative warns besides of illusions over democracy in the European Union.By Larissa Krüger and Silke MülherrOf Europe ministers of foreign affairs are in the continuous crisis employment: Ukraine, Iraq and Syria are only three fires, which want to be withdrawn. Of Sweden minister of foreign affairs Carl Bildt with his European colleagues met. In Brussels they threatened Russia with intensified sanctions, if Moscow does not support the peace plan for east Ukraine. Bildt accused of Putin besides to lead a propaganda war in Ukraine and its homeland.Die Welt: On Thursday meet the European Union member state and – heads of government in Brussels, in order to agree on the next commission president. Was it a good idea to specify leading candidates for the European election from whom afterwards many wanted to know nothing more?Carl Bildt: I was from the outset very sceptical, which concerns the leading candidates, and I also never made from it a secret. My fear was that the appointment of leading candidate the whole process would complicate unnecessarily – and it was unfortunately shown that I had quite. It is always bad, if one does not have a clearance for compromises more.Die Welt: The European parliament insists however on it: Before the choice it says who afterwards the boss becomes, is democratically. You see that differently?Carl Bildt: The role of the European parliament was strengthened by the changes in the contract of Lisbon. But it is called not yet that the meeting of the heads of government – thus the advice – would have to say therefore nothing more. There must be a broad coalition, both the parliament and the advice must the commission president bless. Europe functioned just not like a member country, it is not parliamentary democracy, in which the majority in parliament places the government automatically.Die Welt: Does your wife, who is yes now coincidentally Swedish European delegate, see that exactly the same?Carl Bildt: (laughs) natural, my wife does not see that completely differently. But one does not have to be always an opinion.Die Welt: Did that damage pulling around the nomination as an EU-commission president her conservative fellow party member Jean-Claude Juncker?Carl Bildt: I would not say that Jean-Claude Juncker was damaged during the process. If he is appointed the EU-commission president, he must be able to be measured at his achievement. It is valid to build bridges to those which face it critically. With it I mean naturally above all the British.Die Welt: But Jean-Claude Juncker is completely in principle at all the correct one for the job?Carl Bildt: That will only afterwards show up, in the end its term of office. I know Jean-Claude Juncker for a long time: He is a talented and cunning politician, who has very much experience in the European business.Die Welt: But this experience is laid out for it of some also as disadvantage. Martin Schulz about spoke of the “back room politics”, for which Juncker stands. Rightfully?Carl Bildt: Political experience to have is never a disadvantage, but experience alone is not enough. One must be as politicians particularly able to close compromises and build bridges. That becomes ever more important, the more splintered the political constellation is and the more transparency prevails by social media. These changes require the politicians more employment off, but they create also more democracy – and that is well like that.Die Welt: There are still different European Union-Spitzenjobs, which are to be assigned. Who should be heir to Catherine Ashton as European Union-Außenbeauftragte – perhaps someone, which makes the European foreign policy more visible?Carl Bildt: I would not say that in such a way, gave it a whole row at raids and switching attempts with regard to foreign policy on the part of the European Union. We are at many fronts at the same time on the way: in Ukraine, with the nuclear negotiations with Iran, in Syria. The challenges with regard to foreign policy decrease rather too as.Die Welt: Nobody doubts the challenges. Less recognizably however is a co-ordinated European foreign policy.Carl Bildt: But we were in many questions never as united as at present! Catherine Ashton had to sound much criticism. But if one considers that there was not its office yet at all before five years, then it enormous reached. She negotiated a communication between Serbia and Kosovo, came under her auspice movement into the Iran question. Naturally one must see, where in the end leads – however all underlines nevertheless only the increasing need of an integrated European foreign policy.Die Welt: The situation in east Ukraine continues to go ever out of control. Who has to move in the conflict at most?Carl Bildt: Moscow is most strongly at pressure to contribute to a solution of the Ukraine conflict. Which is very concerned me that more and more weapons and equipment flow over the Russian border. In addition a ever more aggressive propaganda of the Russians comes. That makes the situation explosive.Die Welt: Can the peace plan of the Ukrainian president stabilize the situation?Carl Bildt: Poroschenkos plan could actually create the conditions for peace – provided, the Kremlin supports it. Everything depends on whether the Ukrainian-Russian border is again controlled. Of course Moscow can close this border crossing for weapons and fighters, but Putin must want this step just.Die Welt: What can help to convince Putin of it – the next stage of economic sanctions?Carl Bildt: Fact is nevertheless that we imposed so far still no real sanctions. We decided refusals of entry and froze accounts. However these two steps harmed the Russian economy already substantially. We already see the consequences of it: The capital flows off from Russia, the intelligent heads leaves the country, it in response hardly gives still foreign investments. We did not set on direct, dramatic effects – long-term consequences on central and, which shift the Kremlin already now in panic, separate.Die Welt: Doesn’t sound after a fast solution, or?Carl Bildt: We need will see the long breath, we no results here within days. On Monday the EU Foreign Minister decide new trade restrictions opposite Russia. Background of this decision is that we do not recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea by Moscow. And therefore also the free trade with products and participants, which have to do with Crimea, not to permit want. By such steps we can meet Russia, because the country must be urgently modernized.Die Welt: The European Union threatens for months with new economic sanctions, is however hesitant to impose it. Because it is the last means?Carl Bildt: If Russia far contributes to the destabilization of the situation in Ukraine, we must also move and go the next step. The key lies not necessarily in sanctions against Russia, but rather to help Ukraine.Die Welt: But does not come down to the same?Carl Bildt: No, those are two different things. Russia destabilized, we stabilize. We supported the elections in Ukraine and to help now further together with the International Monetary Fund. If we succeed in accompanying Ukraine on their way to economic reforms and democracy then much is reached. A stable Ukraine is what is afraid Putin at most.Die Welt: The Europeans however are afraid of freezing next winter if Putin closes the gas tap.Carl Bildt: Which we do not pass, in Europe nobody must freeze because of the Ukraine crisis. By then it approximates last a solution to give, the parties have nevertheless noticeably. In any case we should not talk in the near future about energy policy on European level, to it give it a doubt.Die Welt: Which goal pursues Putin, about what he is in the end?Carl Bildt: Of Russia president regime wants to be further to strengthen. I do not think that he aims at a new edition of the Soviet Union. But it will try to expand its sphere of influence further.Die Welt: Neither Finland nor Sweden are at present members of NATO. Does that change soon?Carl Bildt: At present it gives in Sweden no majority for an NATO entry, only about a third to the population is momentary for it. Independently of it Sweden will never join without Finland. And the fairings are distant because of historical experiences and the geographical proximity to Russia far to become NATO member. We concentrate therefore on our Nordic co-operation with the neighboring countries.Die Welt: The challenges for the European Union are enormous: The agreement shrinks from urge the refugees in here, from the inside from the outside to the European project. Which problem is more difficult to solve?Carl Bildt: The two questions are connected. If the European Union is seen only as large battle around posts in Brussels, then to have we a problem. But if the European Union as large community is understood, looks for the solutions for problems such as migration, economy or security, then the legitimacy problem disappears automatically.Die Welt: Should Germany lead more strongly thereby?Carl Bildt: Naja, I thinks, Germany already takes a very strong role in the European Union. Angela Merkel is probably the weightiest political guidance figure within the European Union. From our view the chancellor makes its job good. Both in the Ukraine conflict and during the economic crisis it proved to strength.Die Welt: The Federal Chancellor tries besides to hold the British in the union. But not also an European Union without the British is conceivable?Carl Bildt: It would be a harsh impact for the European Union, if the British would withdraw. Great Britain is to Germany the second largest economic power of Europe. In addition it comes that the British in questions with regard to foreign policy have strong weight. A withdrawal of the British would weaken the European Union clearly as global player.Die Welt: Would the idea of Europe with a withdrawal of the British have failed?Carl Bildt: Yes, if one of the most important countries leaves the European Union, the European idea would have surely failed.Die Welt: A topic, with which in Europe election campaign was made, is the refugee politics. The attack of the migrants increases, the Europeans works helplessly in their handling. How is it to continue?Carl Bildt: We Sweden wish us a fairer distribution of the refugees under the countries of Europe. That is naturally more easily said than done. What does one with thousands refugees, who strand at the coast of Sicily, make and actually only further to Sweden or Germany want? One cannot stop humans. We must try together to find solutions.Die Welt: That these solutions are not found so far yet, give to the right populists in Europe a topic – and lift. What do?Carl Bildt: Right populism in Europe is bothered too much over a comb, one must regard the individual movements and their causes. The advance of Front National for example is expression of the political Malaise in France – a reaction thus on the weakness of the government Hollande. Ukip however, the successful populists from Great Britain, have a clearly anti-European agenda, which is directed against immigration policy.Die Welt: What can oppose Europe to that?Carl Bildt: Completely simply, Europe must supply. And even if Brussels of property does, does not arrive with the citizens in the EU member states frequently. We understand the Annehmlichkeiten as for example the open borders as natural. Brussels is made responsible only for problems, not however for the achievements. We must change and Europe and its political guidance discuss that again urgently. Then perhaps even the citizens in the end, which they have at Europe, notice.(http://news-round.com/)Bakudaily.az